What if a revolution can’t be stopped? The Trump administration has declared war on wind, solar, and even efficient appliances, but as our guest today makes clear, clean energy is cheap energy--and it’s advancing at a breakneck pace, climate deniers be damned. At the center of the action is David Hochschild, chair of the California Energy Commission. David Hochschild, chair of the California Energy Commission, joins Cindy Kan of Collective Energy for a wide-ranging conversation on the clean energy transition, from California’s rapid growth in renewables, battery storage, electrification, and microgrids to the challenges of affordability, reliability, permitting, and equitable implementation. They also explore Hawai‘i’s energy future, the role of state and community leadership, workforce transition, and the personal sources of hope, resilience, and connection that sustain long-term climate work. David Hochschild is chair of the California Energy Commission, an $9 billion agency that directs energy policy for the world’s fourth largest economy. Trained at Swarthmore and the Kennedy School, Hochschild has over 20 years of experience in energy transformation. He has been awarded the Sierra Club’s Trailblazer Award, the American Lung Association’s Clean Air Hero Award, and the U.S. Department of Energy’s Million Solar Roof True Champion Award. In 2024, he was named the American Energy Society’s Person of the Year. Cindy Kan is the Director of Projects and Special Projects at Collective Energy.